Thursday, March 7, 2013

They're Back: RGISC wants to ban the bag.


Well, I guess since Austin just banned single use plastic bags, the RGISC (Rio Grande International Study Center) does not want to be left behind and is, again, calling for a ban on single use plastic bags.

I hope you readers take the time to really investigate bag bans that have been in effect for some time, and just how ineffective they are in reducing trash.  The only economic impact is to the retailers bottom line, and the wallets of the consumer.

But locally, in todays Laredo Morning Times:

While in front of the Laredo Citizen's Environmental Committee, he RGISC and City of Laredo staffers claimed that a bag ban will clean up Laredo and save the city lots of money on trash clean up.

The RGISC also reported they got some money from a grant to buy reusable bags (for the poor folks I guess) and to advertise for a bag ban.

Here are some questions for the RGISC:

1.  How many people will get free re-usable bags for shopping with your $6,000?  My guess, is at 7 to 8 bags per family, and at $1 each, about 750 families.

2.  With over half the population of Laredo being classified as "in poverty," how do you expect the poor to add these re-usable bags to their home budget?  And don't forget the time and cost to wash the bags regularly.

3.  What will you tell the public when they still see all the trash on the streets, in the creeks, and other plastic hanging on the trees?  Will your response be "We need more bans?"  (Remember, the TxDOT study that found only .6% (six tenths of one percent) of the trash along Texas highways were single use plastic bags.

4.  What will you tell people who reuse their single use bags for trash disposal, litter box cleaning, storage, or any of a hundred other uses people find for these bags that they will now have to BUY bags for such use.

5.  How do you address the increase in folks visiting the hospital for contaminated food illnesses, and possible deaths?  More bans?

These are just a few questions that I have heard people ask.  We await your answers RGISC.

According the Laredo Morning Times, the RGISC just completed a public opinion poll that ask Laredoans if they support a ban on single use plastic bags.  According to the RGISC, 48% of our citizens were in favor of the ban, and 15% were not sure.   I guess that leaves only 37% of us against the ban.  I would like to see the questions that were asked of those polled.  I wonder what percentage of those polled were poor and on food stamps, as they will be impacted the most.  I wonder if the poor were asked some of these simple questions:

A:  Do you know if a ban takes place, you will be forced to buy your own bags for groceries, shopping at the mall, shopping at the mini-mart near you?   Ask now, do you agree or disagree with the ban?

B:  Do you know if a ban takes place, only .6% of the trash on Laredo streets will go away?  Ask now, do you agree or disagree with the ban?

C:  Do you know if you use the re-usable bags, you MUST wash them regularly or you and your family could get sick?  Ask now, do you agree or disagree with the ban?

D:  Do you know the stores will make money off you when you purchase these reusable bags for about one dollar apiece?   And that they most likely will not reduce the price of their products at all, even though they are no longer paying the cost of the plastic bags?  Ask now, do you agree or disagree with the ban?

E:  Do you realize that if you have to make a quick stop at the store, and have left your reusable bags at home, you may have to buy new bags at one dollar apiece to get your groceries home?  (If you leave them in your hot car, the reusable bags grow germs faster)  Ask now, do you agree or disagree with the ban?

My guess, none of the above questions was asked in the survey.  My guess is also that the survey conducted was not scientific in polling the people by economic means.

I will wait on that to be proven wrong.

Below is a statement an link to a study discussing the health impacts of these "re-usable" plastic bags:

The study, by Jonathan Klick of University of Pennsylvania Law School and the Property and Environment Research Center and Joshua D. Wright of the George Mason University School of Law, found that in jurisdictions where plastic bags were banned saw ER visits increase by about one-fourth, with a similar increase in deaths compared with neighboring counties where the bags remained legal.

Basically people were schlepping leaky packages of meat and other foods in their canvas bags, then wadding to the bags somewhere for awhile, leaving bacteria to grow until the next trip, when they tossed celery or other foods likely to be eaten raw in the same bags.

Washing your bags reduces the risk, but let's be honest: who does that? 

To quote the study:

We find that the San Francisco County ban is associated with a 46 percent increase in deaths from food borne illnesses. This implies an increase of 5.5 annual deaths for the county.

City council, don't fall for the easy, ineffective ban on plastic bags.  It will not solve the littering problem, it will not save the city money on trash mitigation, and it will do nothing more than add Laredo to a list of cities that are reacting to an over zealous group of environmentalist whose only solutions to community problems involve the banning of things they do not like.

City council  if you want to clean up the littering problem, work on instilling some pride in this community that will prevent people from littering.

Laredo, Wake Up and tell me what you think.

6 comments:

  1. I don't think the bag ban will pass because city council doesn't have that kind of vision, ambition and will. The locals won't like it because we don't like change, and aren't really in tune with environmental stewardship.

    Over the years I've collected more reusable tote bags than I need. Most of them were free; I paid for two of them from what I remember. In all the time I've been using them, not once have I gotten sick from food-borne related illnesses.

    I'll explain more in a video this weekend.

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  2. As far as people getting sick, that was reported in the study I quoted.

    As I have always stated, I will never agree to any legislation that does not accomplish the task for which it was implemented for. This is on of those legislation s in my opinion.

    Anyway, keep up the good work KeyRose, and I will be waiting for you video.

    FYI, to those who do not know, KeyRose operates the LaSanbe Blog...see my link to his blog on the sidebar.

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  3. Thank you for being the only voice of reason on this topic. Something that was not mentioned in this posting, Tricia Cortez is trying to disparage the Downtown Merchants by not telling the whole truth (or maybe she is just uneducated and uninformed although I would like to use another word to describe her, but let’s keep it civil). The Texas Retailer Association (TRA) lobbied and fought the ban back in 2008 and was backed by the Downtown merchants. The TRA represents virtually every big box and national chain store in Laredo. TRA representatives including reps with WalMart stood in front of City Council and let them know that they were completely against the plastic bag ban. When you hear Tricia talk, it was only the Downtown Merchants because she wants to make US the scapegoats in this ridiculousness. As for the survey, of course it was not scientific, it was slanted to get the results that Tricia and the rest of the so called “environmentalists” wanted. And another topic that is not mentioned in this posting is who is going to enforce the ban if there is a ban? The Code Enforcement Department? They can’t even stop people from dumping 20 inch tires all over the city. If you listen to these so called environmentalists they will use the word “Progressive” when talking about a ban in Laredo. Being progressive does not mean that government (especially this cities government) should meddle in our everyday lives. Enough is enough! If they think they are going to get this ban through, they are seriously misguided. Prepare yourself Tricia!

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  4. Good points, I will remember in my updates on this issue as it moves forward (or, as I hope, is killed rather quickly by city council.)

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  5. Tricia Cortez....what has she done to contribute to the "Economic" well-being of Laredo? She couldn't make a living in the business world, so now she blindly, foolishly, and stupidly tries to hurt the business community of Laredo - while drinking out of a PLASTIC bottle.

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  6. ON the stat about TDO saying stuff . The majority of the eye sore is in the cities what does the hwy have anything do as a point we should not. A bit misleading the point there.

    Whats it to you if they are poor or how they are going to do it if there is a ban. WE ALL SHOULD MIND our own. Dont bring the poor into this. The poor as you call them will do what is necessary to be in compliance with the law on banning single plastic bags. Everyone is equal as citizens labeling them one way or another. Worry about the once that can that wont use the recycle bags. I dont see anyone complaining about that but they sure bring the POOR as if that is an excuse to suspect how they are going to do this. WOW.

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